Blued fluted barrel with notc. horn pistol grip cap. Grade 4 Wood. Quite a few came home in duffel bags after WW2. Your email address will not be published. It Is Better To Now Have Been A Has Been Than A Never Was Or A Wanna Be ". Shooting at the Popinjay (parrot) or other bird targets also dates back to Roman times. I Wrote to Bertram two weeks ago and they have the brass in stock I think it's around 38.00 per twenty and they said the shipping would be about 28.00 for up to 100 rounds. Now we will look at the individual targets with the 10 ring bull first. by Old No7 Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:48 pm, Post Focus ring on scope is stuck. Ach du Lieber" !! As nice as the rifle is and the work to get to the point of a loaded round if it doesn't shoot good, a good bottle of Scotch - off to the basement and cry my eyes out! The shooter who detaches the highest valued piece (often the main body or the Heart of the target) is the Champion of the competition and is announced as the Konigschusse or King of the Shoot. Fixed ammunition can be used, but the prior methods are believed to offer greater accuracy. The accuracy of these rifles and the shooting done with them was truly remarkable. Yearly events began to take place where the citizenry gathered to compete with the crossbow and later with firarms. It gives the formula there for safe loads with 2400 and 4198. Has 7x42 wetzlar scope. The book. He also chose the CPA and he give you all the specifics of his rifle. " Below- another period Target advertisement. bbl., DST, checkered stock with pewter forend cap, large Schuetzen buttplate, fancy spur trigger guard, original tang sight adjustabl, #1033A C. STEIGELE MARTINI GERMAN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, 8:15 X 46, SN 95XX, 30 fluted bbl., made in 1938, bottom of bbl. Matches . "Schuetzen" was to the firearms of that era what benchrest is to ours. large-caliber weapons has been popular in Germany at least since the second half of the 19th century. While competitors typically use Ballard, Sharps, Remington rolling-block, or Winchester high- or low-wall rifles or modern-made replicas of these designs modern rifles such as the Ruger No. Harry M. Pope of New Jersey and George Schoyen of Denver, Colorado were considered the finest riflesmiths of the "Schuetzen" era. Click for more info Seller: William Larkin Moore & Sons Area Code: 480 $2,500.00 Zimmer Schuetzen - Rifle. It is our hope that this data will be useful to the modern "Schuetzen" competitor. Some of the records set with them were unbeaten for nearly a century. Axel mentions Maretsch in the Nimrod thread - is that a German book ? The goals were the same: The finest accuracy attainable. I wouldn't put to much faith in Bertram brass. The first time I ever heard of Schuetzen rifles it was an old article in THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN where they were covering the matches put on by the Coors Company. The more I read about the 32-20 CPA it seems to be a great caliber or terrible. good up to 100yds match * 32-40 CPA with Fecker 12X scope - up to 200yd or meter match * 38-55 HiWall - good up to 300 yds With its longevity and avid following, the Schuetzen now has a place asone of Historys Guns. by 6pt-sika Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:37 pm, Post . The bullets are usually seated with the base of the bullet at the case mouth as this method gives superior accuracy. Generally someone is available to answer your call M-F from 9am to 5pm, Central Time. I have been researching it for a while. It was made by Franz Neumann, Suhl Germany in 1930. Classic Single Shot Rifles: 1874 Sharps, 1873 Trapdoor Springfield, 1885 High Wall Arrowhead 1976 16K views 10 months ago Peter Hofer present at The World Gunmakers Virtual Event 2020 GunsOnPegs. According to a legend told by the famous V. Goethe, the medievel knight G.v.B. It was a Ballard breech-loading rifle that chambered a cartridge. Top of barrel is marked ""Joh. They were for amusement and not for showing shooting skill. Serial #417130. Under the supervision of noted barrel rifler Harry Pope, this Stevens single-shot rifle was factory-fitted with a target barrel. How does yours shoot, I would love to see one of the targets. The single parts are of 1 inch pine; one 1/2 inch dowel holds them in the joint of the 3 inch body shield, which must be hit to drop. Oct 19, 2021 - Explore Mike Hill's board "Schuetzen", followed by 56,023 people on Pinterest. Another bird target was the Eagle target which was much larger than the Popenjay target. This Rifle appears to have had a, Franz Langenhan Kleinkaliberbuchse Single Shot Rifle in .22LR. Schler, Richard and the August Schler Co. Will- Oscar, Ernst Leo, Julius & Venus Waffenwerk, Dietrich Apel and the Foto Gallerie Suhl Waffenkunst or Gunmakers Poster Project, D.R.G.M.s or Deutsches Reichs Gebrauchs-Muster (German utility or design patents 1871-1945). 1 and Mossberg SSi are also allowed. Action Type: Lever Operated Falling Block Single Shot Rifle, Martini Style Action with Internal Extractor and Double Set Triggers To activate, press the grey button. That is a beautiful rifle. 28" Octagon Barrel. SN #4421. Overall, this single shot rifle is in very good condition and it has a very good to excellent bore. Right-hand schutzen backend, rebarreled to US configuration 219 Zipper. Kurt, thanks for the kind words and Yes, I'll update this thread as events progress. DropH approx 2 3/4", DropC approx 1 1/2". Overall, I'd say that the book is a useful reference is you look at this fine old rifle above and see it as the epitome of sharpshooting beauty. RSW, I agree that the highcomb Pope is to much, I have a high comb 51 from CPA (which I don't think they make anymore) and it is great for a big guy (me too) when using a unertl scope height. Last week my father gifted me some old family guns. Can't say if this is the story with your rifle. Can't wait for you to get yours up and running. W3088 WINCHESTER 1885 LO-WALL DELUXE SCHUETZEN RIFLE IN CALIBER 22 [A] $ W3106 ENGRAVED HIGH WALL CUSTOM TARGET RIFLE BY NIEDNER RIFLE CORP [A] $ Interested In Any Of Our Products. Wall hangers are not in my vocabulary! Schuetzen - German Martini Rifle, 7.7mm. What aabout the Jamison C sharps 44-90 brass? The engraving is of the finest seen, Greener action and safety, Rear sight raised by tang, Wood very high grade, no cracks, ***Reduced *** Was 1895.00 Now $1795.00***Fredrich Langenhan "F.L. Get a Douglas or Shilen 28 #3 barrel with a 1 : 14 twist, then ask Paul to recommend you a bullet mold he will steer you right. Blaser K95 single shot 6.5CM Jaeger with case. Original sights consist of a very delicate blade front sight, a fancy rear barrel sight and a unique tang sight. John find you a Speer #7 reloading manual and read George Nonte's chapter about loading for the old timers.. Today, thanks to the efforts of Coors, the sport of "Schuetzen" has re-emerged as a popular form of rifle competition. Percussion 4 mm parlor rifle with adjustable globe rear sight and very ornate German Schuetzen pattern rifle stock. By the middle ages this became the major event in shooting competitions all across Europe but particularly in the Geman speaking countries. A Schuetzen is a type of rifle used in European long-range competition. by Old No7 Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:30 pm, Post Its German root is from the word Schtze which can be translated as "shooter." The earliest usage was to denote units of marksmen or sharpshooters back in the days of muzzleloading firearms. I wish to thank my friend from Germany Mr. Peter-Josef Schmitt for the interpretations. Schuetzen Matches are shot at 200 yards with a specialized target. Base price: $3195 Price with unfinished wood: $2595 Click here for common options, or call us at 570-828-1669 for a quote. My now deceased shooting buddy had a Martini Schuetzen very similar to yours and I had one on the big falling block style action . The firearms used in this competition were referred to as Vogelbchse and are single shot long guns with a lage gauge bore, the 16 ga. being the most common. JJ REEB - COMBINATION GUN - 16 GAUGE - 11.5 X 52R - HIGHLY ENGRAVED - ANTIQUE, HAMACHER DUSSELDORF DRILLING 16GA 2 3/4 AND 8X58 SAUER, VERY INTERESTING AUSTRIAN PERCUSSION ZIMMERSCHUETZEN RIFLE, Imman Merfert Drilling Suhl Germany 16x16 & 8x57JR, "Walther Sport Modell single shot bolt action rifle .22 caliber (R38341), Antique JOHN WURFFLEIN Half Stock BACK ACTION .48 Percussion TARGET Rifle Made by the Founder of the SHUETZEN VEREIN, J P Sauer Single Shot Stalking Rifle, 9.3mm, Double trigger, Antique JOHN WURFFLEIN .415 Caliber Percussion TARGET Rifle Schuetzen Phila Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Precision Long Rifle, Otto GEYGER & Co. Berlin Germany 9x57 Stalking rifle, GERMAN NMN SHUTZEN FALLING BLOCK SINGLE SHOT 9.3X48R. Suhl History, Photographs & Notgelds, etc. Does your have the gunsmiths name on it. When encountered today, his rifles often bear the crests of the European nobleman who had ordered the gun. There's a small gathering of schuetzen shooters here that might get a real bang out of your rifle.. You may have to make or have made the part you need. I want the rifle to just enjoy shooting. The engraving and metalwork on this piece is exquisite and that may be the only justification for someone to buy this rifle. It might look nice in one of my safes, but I try to only buy firearms that I can actually take out and shoot. The following risque or cartoon targets were sometimes used in shooting galleries at public festivals like the Octoberfest. During these visits I observed and photographed many painted Honor Targets both recent and historic. The bullets are usually seated with the base of the bullet at the case mouth as this method gives superior accuracy. More photos of the action may give a hint to the maker. Anyway the gun may have been converted to .22LR simply because the ammo was completely obsolete. The serial on the bolt does not match. The Schuetzen is both a rifle and a style of competition steeped in European shooting tradition. The 234 grain bullet is a little more forgiving in the conditions and the recoil is similar to the 32-40. This model is usually built to order as to stock style, caliber, barrel size, shape and length. It is a rimless, bottlenecked cartridge with a maximum case length of 2.94 inches. Interpretation- The Heath (Black) Cock and the Capercaily (Mountain Cock) are pairing in April- the hunter has a cut above, he Pairs whenever he will. The integrated laser sight is under the barrel. A German Classic in a Teutonic .32-40. New low price $2200.00 priced to move!!!! LOP is approx 14 1/8". Now I have to see if I can find some brass or form some for myself. https://www.militaria-fundforum.de/ftole/&pageNo=4, If this is your first visit, be sure to We're Sighting In on the tradition and history of a 200 year old firearm. Manufactured dated under barrel 7.25 (July 1925), also marked ""7.6mm"". mr1540 very interesting austrian percussion zimmer schuetzen rifle [a] $ 875.00; mr1327 very fine cased sxs rifle/shotgun by john donaghy [a] $ If it is a manually operated rifle, open the bolt and insert the ammunition into the chamber and then close the bolt. That weight adds stability when shooting off-hand, standing. The data presented in this section was developed in pressure barrels in our ballistic lab. Powder charges seldom exceed 55 grains. Reloading Dies - Only source for this caliber is CH4D. The butt stock is so customized that the shooter for whom it was built is likely the only one who can fire the rifle accurately. I have a question about a German "Schuetzen rifle" - it says "Victor Trlzsch in Nrnberg" on the barrel. A beautiful gun. Schuetzen rifles come with either standard scope bases or the Weaver style. Winchester model 95 lever action rifle in .30-06 caliber. Gewehr 98: Mauser-Werke various others 7.9257mm Mauser: Wehrmacht Waffen-SS: Standard German infantry rifle of World War I. It appears I have this same rifle but only very minor engraving on the metal on mine. While competitors typically use Ballard, Sharps, Remington rolling-block, or Winchester high- or low-wall rifles or modern-made replicas of these designs modern rifles such as the Ruger No. Barrel measures approx. In this case, the rear trigger must be set to allow the front trigger to fire. Like many Schuetzen rifles of the period, it sports a set of double set triggers. GERMAN NMN SHUTZEN FALLING BLOCK SINGLE SHOT 9.3X48R GI#: 102141153 ID # 8341 Make GERMAN NMN Model SCHUTZEN FALLING BLOCK Configuration Single Shot Gauge / Caliber 9.3X48R Price $2,500. "SN: 3162. This rimmed oddball caliber proved popular as it was strictly a sporting round and allowed the Germans to produce these rifles, ammunition and components when they were sanctioned against producing military arms after World War I. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. John is a Schuetzen enthusiast and avid competitor. Bore is excellen, #156A SWISS SCHUETZEN RIFLE, 7.5 rimmed cal., 33 12 oct. fluted bbl., under lever Martini action, checkered Schuetzen stock with large cheek rest, adjustable Schuetzen buttplate, Schuetzen le, GERMAN DRILLING, 16 X 16 X 8 X 57 JR, 26" bbls., hammerless, cocking indicators, lever safety, bbl. $45.00 shipping. Begin by loading the schuetzen rifle. By the 14th and 15th Centuries the crossbow was the favorite amongst both the military and sportsmen alike. Sometimes the case is primed and charged with either loose powder or premeasured paper packets that are dropped in the case mouth. These rifles are usually built to order, with a variety of options to suit your specific needs. Yours Sincerely Tim Hudd. The rifles accepted technical changes - like brass cartridges - but the sport did not. These shooting events with the bow were carried into use with both the crossbow and firearms and in some regions are still being practiced today. Note- Shooting a buck is a German saying for making a fault, missing a target or doing something stupid. Circa 1893 Winchester (U.S.) Falling-Block Schuetzen Target Rifle (single-shot/ breech-loading/ black powder/ cartridge ammunition) By the end of the nineteenth century, three general groups of target rifles had been developed: 1) Scheutzen, or off-hand, 2) Creedmoor, or long-range, and 3) Bench Rest, or stationary. Loose Trans. Follow through with your trigger press and recock the rifle or reset the safety. Are you sure the chambers are 2-3/4". The word "Schuetzen" is German and in this application refers to a breech-loading, singleshot rifle using a cartridge case to contain the primer and powder charge with cast or swaged lead bullets. 16 gauge 7.65r caliber. 28" Octagon Barrel. Rifle of exquisite art and workmanship. One of the victims of this hate was the sport of "Schuetzen." Schuetzens are heavy, 12 to 15 pounds, much of that weight in the barrel. The stuck bullet is sown on the very right, it measures 5.52mm in diameter (before shooting it was 5.7mm) Next I tried a CCI .22 CB long (also 710 FPS), which also got stuck at about the same distance from the muzzle. The Germans, not having the necessary Bear in mind that this was the heyday of rifle competition and the shooters of the day were as well known as any modern athlete. The barrel is approx 25.5" with a hand oper, "Serial No. Luckily mine has the rear sight, it has unusual method of adjustment. b) Rifles and handguns chambered for 4mm, 5mm, .22 inch, .23 inch, 6mm or 9mm rim-fire ammunition; Full rib with express sight & claw mounts. 47.75"". HI WALL SCHUETZEN RIFLE GI#: 102074655 #1017A WIN. In the 1920's "sheeple" was a term coined by the National Socialist Party in Germany to describe people that would not vote for Hitler. Close the action and rotate the cocking piece counterclockwise until it is fully cocked. Long-range target rifles became an art form for the Teutonic gunmaker. The load on the chart wasn't the one I went by, instead I considered the one marked on the rifle. This was necessary due to the very low pressures generated by most of these loads. Circa 1900 Stevens-Pope (U.S.) Lever-Action Falling-Block Rifle (single-shot/ breech-loading/ black powder/ cartridge ammunition) In his day, Harry M. Pope was judged to be the finest American barrel maker. The sanctioning body for Schuetzen matches is The American Single-Shot Rifle Association (ASSRA). The Franz Bartusch Schuetzen Rifle offered here measures 42 " in overall length with a 31 3/8" barrel. From looking at your loaded rounds and the cast of my chamber I made they look the same. Stock shows handling wear and has approximately 92% original blue remaini, Antique JOHN WURFFLEIN Half Stock BACK ACTION .48 Percussion TARGET Rifle Made by the Founder of the SHUETZEN VEREIN Here we present an antique John Wurfflein Half Stock Back Action Percus, JP Sauer Single Shot Stalking rifle, 9.3mm, 27" barrel, Double trigger. Sighting In with Shooting USA - Schuetzen Rifles. Sorry that is the best photo I have at this time I inventoried my guns not to long ago and that's where the photo came from. I'm new to the forum and new to Schuetzen. Barrels are normally up to 28" long, but are available up to 34" long. 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