It wont go as low as 400 f.p.s. I shaved the b-square attachment part of the benjamin 392. Who knows, maybe the Benjamin will encourage her to get us a Webley that with us when we sail to some of the islands in the Puget Sound. the closer i put my hand bracing the barrel to the front sight, the easier it is to pump. If you want more power than that, either change barrels to the 24-inch, or buy a Talon. I remember what an ordeal getting it was! Pellgunoil has been used for decades for this purpose. Smoothing it out. Have you exprienced this? You should be beginning with a factory rear sight that looks like picture #1. George Pena in TX. The Talon SS is one of the quietest precharged air rifles available. I have number 142 of the 500 that are going to be made. I wouldnt recommend it for that. Surely Im doing something or multiple things wrong. hoag4147 First Name Rick Joined Dec 13, 2019 Threads 63 Messages 4,215 Just thought that I would let you know one of the things that is possible with the 392. i will get the pellegun oil. But I keep lingering over the spring pistons. My questions is this, whats the best way to clean these brass-barreled guns? Features: Elegant hardwood stock All metal barrel construction Beautiful and functional Brass bolt and hard ware Fully Functioning safety Specifications: Caliber: .177 Ammo Type: Pellets Body Components: Wood Stock with Metal Barrel Assembly Power Supply: Multi-Pump Pneumatic Rifle Overall Length: 36.25 inches Barrel Length: 19.25 inches Fire Benjamin 392/397 Factory Rear Blade Sight Removal: All picture numbers are referenced to my Picasa photo album here: picasaweb.google.com/bsmoooth/Benjamin397. I was shooting with open sights. When I place my cheek down to look at my sights theres about one inch of barrel visible between the front and rear sights. When the high-pressure air hits the bolt, it tries to thrust it backwards, but the O-ring slides up out of its seat and seals the air, stopping the movement. Hi B.B. You might want to bookmark that page, or at least write down the URL, which is the long address that appears in the narrow window at the top of your browser. I was just curious with well placed shots of course, what type of hunting capabilites could the 397 handle within the 10-20yard range. Webley was unable to provide the spec for Weblube when we asked, therefore I cannot recommend it. Sorry about the typo. Mine has been charged for 6 years now. BB, Ive read your reviews and blogs extensively, and they have helped out tremendously, thanks! ($). They will handle this problem for you. I bought a Benjamin 392 in 1975 and still have it today. Besides, it also has lots ofknockdown power to finish an animal in one clean shot. I shot at a pellet tin today (diameter 2.5) from 45 yards offhand with gamo hunters and only connected on 6 of 10. Fits Benjamin 397/392 and Sheridan multi-pump rifles Easily slips on the receiver, spanning the pellet-loading area 2-piece intermount mounts on receiver & included Picatinny rail attaches to the intermount Includes 2-piece aluminum intermount, 2 steel screws and Picatinny rail Additional Details Small Business Rick is another guy who has been doing this for several decades, and hes very methodical in his work. People love its beautiful fit and finish, reliability, durability, accuracy, and recoilless. is this normal? I am considering, based on your posts, the 22SG, 392 or the blue/silver streak. At close range (under 20 yards) they are fine, but I would use a diabolo at longer ranges. The top turret was turned 900 degrees south. would oil for a gas airsoft guns work it is silcon here is the link. Do you use the B-Square mount in conjunction with the b272? Only thing it needs is the Williams peep sight, Reviewed in the United States on June 24, 2022. I started by supporting the gun on its balance point and loosely holding it. Can I accurately hit crows out to 35 or 40 yards with this gun? Im surprised you havent found the American Airguns classified ads yet. Only time will tell. If I pump it 8 times or so and let it sit for two or three minutes until I fire, it loses all it's power. Maybe it drops off more noticeably when you get it into the 10-14 pump range? A compressor costs about $1,200. I was wondering if this particular round ball is made of lead, and if so, will the coating harm the rifling of the soft brass barrel on the 392? Now all I have to do is collect the money!!!!! What pieces would I need to install a system like this? Im gonna buy more, and ill be giving up on buying the peep sight for a while, too (Ill get around to it). Tell me about the Logan pump. Just ordered a 392 last night, and Im looking forward to its delivery. Start by taking a medium sized flat screwdriver and place the edge in this groove, against the front clip as shown in pictures #2 and #3. Is there a reason the peep sight is attached closer to the eye then the rear sight? Can anyone help me out with names of stores (in Minnesota) that sell the IZH 61 and the Benjamin 392? Theres no way to tighten them enough and I have no way to use the scope. Sometimes the bolts are so stiff that they dont move as readily. Is that true? A single-shot action gun gives you control over the type of pellet you gonna shoot. Series: 4 Piece: Model: Intermount: . It all comes down to the barrel. You mention the 397 but quote the weight of a .22 caliber pellet (15.8 grains). I dont even recommend scoping a multi-pump. Im a kid and I want some power! Their guns come from Germany, Spain and China. Therefore, having a brass barrel is a huge advantage that can make your gun last for years. Keeping the groups at 1.5 inches at 25 feet was the best I could do! Its a little more difficult then I thought it would be but Im on to it!! and my mom thinks so too. Watching active hunters practise their craft initiated him into the world of hunting and rubrics of outdoor life. If anyone knows where to get one please email me @ derrickhand72@aol.com thanks (Jeremy). thank you so much. I think ill buy this first for plinking until i can force myself to save the money forthe benjamin 392. Pellgunoil isnt a good lubricant. Id like to have this one gone over by a profesional (wouldnt want to try and tackle that one!) Hi Nick,Thanks for your comments on the Benjamin 392. I have killed cottontails at 35 yards with a Blue Streak. If you have gone in the other direction, the spring is relaxed and that WILL CAUSE the shifting aim points you describe. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations. It looks great next to the rest of my guns and adds a little variety to my collection. Sorry for all the questions, but the more I look at it the more I want and I am getting way beyond my original need. Any suggestions? , Copyright 1999-2022 Pyramyd Air. However, this raises another series of questions for you. I dont mind paying an extra 50-100 bucks or so for much better quality. Rick is another guy who has been doing this for several decades, and hes very methodical in his work. Consider an IZH 61 for your girlfriend. As far as the peep sight, when installed and properly sighted what should I see? Somehow smoothing it out would defeat the purpose. Ive been thinking about getting a peep sight for my 392, and then I realized, why not make one? Pumps six through eight will be harder, but you dont always need them. Thanks for the information on it which helped make my decision to purchase F Nash. Always being safety concience, I ALWAYS keep the safety ON!!! Pyramyd sells the Blue Book and Amazon has Elbes. Thanks bb. Remember, back of the scope must move in the direction you want the shots to go. Give it a try. Im really falling in love with this rifle. B.B.Would you happen to know the difference between the updated model 392 and a model 342? Believe it or not, it is easier to hit a 3-inch target than to group in three inches. As many have stated before, the Williams Peep sight is a great addition to the 392. If the blog doesn't come up, just click on "blog" on the Pyramydair website at the top of the screen. Thank you Mr B. BB,If you dont pump the benji more than 3-4 times how loud will it be and what will the velocity be? After a few clicks to the left and the impact point is vertically alligned with the target point. They hold all the answers you need. Anyways I have the Benjamin 397 and was wondering what you think is a nice distance to zero in the open sights to for a well rounded point of impact for shooting mostly done between the 10-20yards mark. I plan to use the Weaver B-square scope base for the Benjamin blue streak and accushot 2 piece 1 weaver rings. It belonged to one of my uncles and the only thing I know about the gun is that it dates back to the early 1940s. Says something about these rifles doesnt it? When you close the pump handle, make your pumping hand flat to keep fingers out of the way. i pull back the bolt and pull the trigger but no air comes out. Furthermore, the barrel is made of brass (an alloy made of copper and zinc). I am extremely interested in it for its noise dampener. (For more on the 5 types of air rifles you need to know before buying, see this post.). Remember, Im just a kid offering advice, B.B. Works great and quiets the slapping sound/impact on the barrel a good bit. Yes hitting low. Now you have your rifle. This is currently. Yesterday I disassembled the whole scope/mount and started over. Is that Normal for this gun ? B.B.Your last two paragraphs were interesting, I was all set to trade my old 312 (it needs some work on it, after all of these years) in on a new 392, it seems to be well liked, (the 392s) by the comments Ive read in this column. Its accurate and inexpensive. They differ in some small ways, but caliber is the biggest. I pulled my old, old Crosman model 1 out of the attic and got re-addicted to pellet guns before it lost compression (in the rear seal, not the pump arm seal. Plinker; Posts: 234; yes; A steel 120 cubic foot tank give a lot more fills, but it also costs more, plus you will need a valve adaptor to make it work. Yes, the forearm goes all the way up with every pump stroke. My curiosity was piqued and I began to investigate all types of airguns. This is why i prepare for the worst. I meant the 392, as you indicated. If I got the Scuba Refill clamp would I just find a dive shop or would I need to buy my own tank? I enjoy long range plinking, i.e. If you get repeatable results, well ask other owners to test your methods. I want something like this system on my rifle. Notice the date at the top of the blog. There is also a 6power Bug Buster 2, so look at that, as well. Good question. Or for a one-stop solution for dealing with the annoying pests in your backyard. (If anyone else needs to know how to remove the factory rear blade sight, I can email a detailed description with pictures). Eventually, the entire sight will either completely slide out of the groves by tapping, or you can simply pull the little bit that remains free. What would you recommend as the best air rifle. Remember, This is my first springer, so its a whole different ball game for me!! I havent tried them in a 392, but I have tested them at distance extensively in an AirForce Talon SS. I have not tried a 397 with an extra-heavy pellet. 6 pumps at 20 yards.25 shots to zero in,with open sights.This will do until Baker Airguns gets my scope mount to me.Nice feel and balance.Pumping is a chore, but I like the results. This blog is nearly 4 years old and there are almost 800 individual posts like this one. The model I'm testing for you today is the first variation. Once again there is no Benjamin Franklin airgun. Thats the air getting sucked in. Please try again. It has been an intense 24 hours of education to this point. The German ones are great. I wish you could change the word verification on this system because its a real pain telling the difference between the lower case letters and the capitols. This air rifle is very quiet compared to my RWS Diana 45 spring-piston and seems to hit much harder. The forearm has a very pronounced beavertail swelling where the hand grabs to pump the rifle. Every once in awhile, I get an answer in before you do. And it focuses down to nine feet! Sure you can use your scopes! That threww up a red flag to me. after placing a few shots after the windage or elevation pieces are set. If you hear anything from Volvo and can give us an update, please do. Do you have these problems? Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:33 am Posts: 7 . I also like the Gamo Shadow 1000, but be prepared to break it in. Roy. for al your help. Up to five pumps will be easy. I also got the recommended Williams peep sight. Not only does the gun shoot like new, he didnt mess up the vintage finish on a significant collectible while he did the work! Its just a slang term for inertia. Air Rifles PCP Automatic Big Bore .30/.303 Caliber 9mm/.357 Caliber .45 Caliber .50 Caliber Repeating Single Shot Semi-Auto Ambi & Left Hand Ambidextrous Left Hand Arrow / Pellet Automatic CO2 PCP Air Soft Beginners Blow Back Caliber .177 Caliber CO2 Gas Piston Break Barrel However, can you advise on windage adjustment? The B-Square adjustable mounts are really necessary, but I like to keep all the scopes adjustments ready for sight-in, so I use them. Eeeeck! Where some products have been so vastly changed and cheapened over time, the Benjamin 392 remains a steadfast leader for very high quality. In fact, you are supposed to leave a pump of air in the gun when you are not shooting it. The 392 variable pump is 22 caliber and it's a single shot rifle. Loosely holding got me 3 and 13/16 inches (average 3 and 15/16 inches). BB, I finally recieved my 392, and am kinda displeased with it. The 392 model in the .22 caliber is capable of sending a traditional lead pellet at 685 fps (alloys around 800fps) and is rated at an impressive 14.9 FPE . The Bug Buster 2 works with most one-inch two-piece scope rings. Lets look at the latest rendition in a line of air rifles that had their beginnings more than 60 years ago. Well, now you are using good pellets. Lets hope its a good one. And dont fail to lubricate the pump head with Crosman Pellgunoil. Secondly, the pumping action is really hard and is not suitable for a person with weak arms. Nick, I have a 1957 Benjamin Franklin it has a brass barrel but some how the bolt action got lost and I can't find a new one. Not very powerful, but a true delight to shoot. I love the wood and i think it looks great! What pellets should I get? BB, I have done some more research and see that I can buy an aluminum dive tank for around $200.00. if you are not into historic or collectibles, buy the new rifle for $30 more and get a warranty. i am having a very difficult time sighting the gun in. Thanks, Thomas. So .22 pellet is the favorite choice for pest eliminators and small game hunters. wow. All these questions!!! Is that correct? Fix your Benjamin or Sheridan pneumatic at home! Therefore, many shooters expect great quality from this new generation of Benjamin 392. Thats called follow-through, and its important with all guns. Please continue your explorations and tell us what happens. No, I havent heard of that, but there are a lot of people interested in the gun so it doesnt surprise me. He will restore airguns to operational specs, but he wont increase power in guns beyond the factory levels. I know they do offer services like mounting scopes, so there is a strong possibility they will mount this sight for you. The factory mount isnt even seated in the rear of the dovetail, so it will only be a matter of time before itll have to be adjusted/tightenned. Too, I have some old Benjamin Franklins one will hold air but the pump level pops down and the other makes a hiss after you pump it and will not hold air. Your rifle should never be pumped more than 10 strokes. My top pick with your budget is Beemans HW30. The only question is whether the rings will stop where the scope tube is smooth, because the Bug Buster is short and has a very limited mounting area. Thanks a lot.-Rob. Could you please provide me with some advice to get this to work? The Bug Buster is just a scope and has little bearing on the Steroid tune. or at least try. My daughter loves to shoot to so theres always a healthy supply of used beverage containers!! It needs Weaver rings. BB-Two questions:Firstly, I was wondering if the Bug Buster 2 would work with the B-Square mount. so i kept shooting lower and lower after every shot. Does the blue streak outperform the 392? Others of smaller stature or those like me developing artharitis in their upper body might try this method of pumping. The two holes are for the roll pins that hold the forearm wood to the pump lever. I own a 397 and I am pleased with everything about it. Do you know in what major ways the Benjamin and Sheridan differed prior to the merger/buyout? I went through half the pellets in that container and my groups had barely shrunk noticably since I started. Are these any good, or should I order something different. My wife took posession of my Blue Streak when rats invaded out house. i have some background in airguns but just had a few questions. he had never pushed it past 6 and does not have the manuals. His business card says Benjamin, Sheridan and old Crosman model 140/1400 pneumatic air rifle repair. He puts them back to factory specs. I used to own a Blue Streak back in the early 70s, and used to hunt squirrels in San Jose, CA before the fields got covered over in silicon. The bolt doesnt lock solidly like a firearm bolt does. They should pry out with your fingers, one end at a time as you break the suction seal holding them in place. The stock has aswelling part in the foregrip to make pumping easier for shooters. Classic pistols that have been discontinued. The black paint on the barrel and receiver is uneven and in some places looks like it had been hastily spot painted. Any suggestions if I was to pick up another air rifle for the purpose I am looking for? I have the resources available and I have a limited understanding of how I could accomplish this feat. Just make sure the LE model has the flat area on the right side of the action with two screw holes to accommodate a peep sight. Yes your groups will improve. The barrel doesnt break in, but cleaning it with JB Bore Cleaning Compound they way I have describved a half-dozen times in this blog will smooth it. I have come across my father-in-laws Benjamin Franklin H 39666. How exactly do you put the Williams Peep Sight on the 392? Where you stop is up to you, but I get about 18 fills of the guns tank from an 80 cubic foot dive tank. I happen to own an AS392T and I like it a lot. Radical state laws are changing which airguns are being producedThanks to laws in states like Michigan, where all air rifles over .18 caliber are considered to be firearms, the big box stores like Wal-Mart dont stock the .22 air rifles any more. Help! Your observations deserve some follow-up. Shoot for the brain and only as far as you can hit a quarter every time. I found it at a local bi-mart and I spoke to a associate about it and he siad he used it on his old crosman. And, NO, an IZH 61 SHOULD NOT be used on animals! EAN: 011482000709 Item ID: 392 More from the manufacturer. This gun is one that truly harkens back to the good old days. Even when Crosman bought Benjamin, they left the quality alone. That isnt easy, but the BAM B26 is one solution, and the B40 is an even better one. Thanks for the confirmation. ($), Shipping cost: I bought a C9A .20 when I knew there were being discontinued. The Benjamin 392 (along with the Benjamin 397) is the except to this rule though. I still dont totally understand the science behind it, but it works. item 1 Benjamin Sheridan 397PA Air Pump Pellet Gun Rifle 4.5mm .177 Cal. I have a medical problem and am afraid of the pump models. I would use only the scopes and mounts Crosman recommends for use with the Intermount. What scope would you recommend (other than Crosmans)?Thanks! i really like the gun but is it worth it to repair or do i need to buy a new one? When you finish shooting be sure and store your 392 with a couple of pumps of air in it. Then cock and shoot it again (no pellet) and listen to hear if any gas escapes. The robust forearm makes it easier to pump, too they say. Thanks!Jackson. Two are smart, the other somewhat ignorant. A very comfortable rifle to handle. This is also a very effective way to compare different calibers using similar pellet shapes, or different guns, pumps or ranges with the same pellets. So, I was all over the airgun idea. BB, OK, I understand that. I got my 392 via regular land transport (2 days) today. Benjamin purchased Sheridan in 1972 and continued manufacturing the Model C until 1992. The 392 has a knock-open valve whose trigger remains the same always. I do know that extra-heavy .20 and .22 pellets are not as accurate as medium-weight pellets. Having never seen a hardwood pellet gun, and with the looks of it I have to have one. It could be my failing eyesight, too. i showed her the 392 on the web and it was the same one! At five pumps they tumble inside and flatten side-ways without exiting (all at 15 yards). This is a superb hunting gun. You are getting about 600 f.p.s. Can you check your word verification archives? You literally have to have the top of your cheek bone resting on the stock to properly see over the sites which is not comfortable at all. What you are doing shouldnt harm to bore so continue. i live in hawaii so if i bought one from air pyramid it would cost $175.00 total. finally he had a cheap 4 power scope mounted, but i was thinking of upgrading to a bug buster or similar, higher powered, scope.

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