I would even venture to say its a 50/50 gamble when buying a Kel Tec. I like the concept at least. You need to learn more about handguns before posting such nonsense. Buy Your Tickets Today! Hey Dan, what gun have you designed or invested in? Look at the back of the slide. I some what question these results mainly because I own one of the guns on this list. Ive heard more than a handful of DEALERS who rate it a much better overall weapon than the KelTec which it resembles, and the machining does appear superior in my estimation. Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. Or had a bad exp. You can get these on line at times for A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. In contrast to this, the original LCP did not lock back on the final round. Did anybody take the poor performing guns to a reputable gunsmith and have them tuned up? And a PPK has the solid feel of pure quality. [Edit: Jeremy S. had issues w/ the Pico as well], 5) Kahr Arms CM40(3.8 stars 0.7, 36 votes). Keep up the good work Jed, and thanks for the article. Pointing a gun will not stop a thug. Is it possible to find a Hellcat II that runs well, shoots well and fits well? But, it doesnt like to be dirty. Shoot to make the thug dead. Thank-you. These guns shoot any ammo I have fed it. There is a reason why this is Berettas top Pocket gun. While the track is double, both trains were traveling in opposite directions on the same line near the Vale of Tempe, a river valley about 380 kilometers (235 miles) north of Athens. The sccy is very similar. Very very inconsistent across the board for everything they make to not be considered really bad. When I dress up, the P380 is the best answer to the pocket-carry problem. The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. Anyway, all just my opinion here. My SCCY runs like a champ. One of the finest pocket guns out there. I had issues with mine to start. Ive seen tons of positive reviews of the CPX2. Thousands of flawless rounds and handles Hot ammo better than most guns handle standard ammo. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. .380 pocket pistols are traditionally difficult to fire for a number of reasons: in addition to the horrid trigger pulls like we just discussed, they also suffer from being extremely snappy due to their small size. On that note, you KNOW were kind of spoiled with all the great pocket guns available today. Simple, easy and the Beretta Pico is in fact one of the most mild shooting Pocket Pistols out there. The Type 94 Shiki Kenju. I have received grief for it as well. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. Baby glocks seem like an attractive option as at least they have a somewhat normal trigger w/ a normal length of pull. I think the wheel guns are less likely to have a problem. But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. He says it is a blunder. Simple the heaviest with the most complicated recoil driven action. That being said my 9yr old daughter has no issue with 380 recoil in a 12ounce g Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. How anyone can actually report that a gun that has the build quality of the Pico is one of the worst is beyond me. I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and Every trigger Ive ever pulled is better than the LCP. But with the right technique and practice, its fine. All these tacticool wannabes on here think theyre special. The slide has the most ineffective grooves Ive ever felt. I love the Pico. That right there should have indicated that something was up when they feature it at a SHOT SHOW and it takes 2 years to finally put it out for sale. Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. Sean, I cannot find documentation of John Lott having bought reviews on Amazon. So Ill pass on the herd mentality when buying guns thanks.. I own some pretty toys and more expensive carry guns but for everyday carry i choose between my CPX 2 and S&W 442 and feel just as confident with either. Both have been dependable and will function without a flaw on anything I have tried. Or do you just sit around Mommies basement pretending to be a gun commando? Best 380 Ive ever had. No problems with it at all. That would be TTAG, and a handful of others. (I call the SCCY, my Sunday go-to-meeting piece. Given how clannish and brand-loyal a lot of gunners are, it wouldnt shock me if about half the votes against the SCCY were cast because it wasnt a Glock 43, or something equally biased and stupid. It pains me to include the DB380 on this list because I bought one acouple years ago. I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. None. I broke the firing pin on the first day. Great little pistol. It is almost a virtual impossibility to drop the mag without having to literally stop everything your doing and have to yank the thing down using 2 hands. Recoil was worse on the 380 than the 9. Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. Their customer service is great and my pistol has run 100% since I bought it with multiples of hundreds of rounds through it. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I do feel though that its a little too light for a 9mm caliber . Id never heard of the site; wanted to check it out to see how much I want to buy the article at face value. They sent me a replacement gun that wouldnt chamber the 1st round. One for range and one for carry. From what I understand the early ones with the safety have issues compared to the later ones without a safety. So now I have a paperweight in the shape of a gun ! I really get the feeling you know little about the Pico. I cant count on my DB380 to run consistently, so I had to give it a low rating. It shoots a powerful pistol cartridge in a light gun. And I dont know why Keltec lets Ruger & SCCY(and the defunct hellcat) slavishly copy their designs. Yea, guns like Diamondback, Jiminez, Lorcen, High Point and so forth have always had poor reputations, but guns like SCCY and the now Springfield Armory XD were initially poo pooed but turn out to be good guns Oh well the TCP I had isnt top 5-it ran good for me. Personally, I only go by in person reviews, in this internet age, from people proven trustworthy. For this purpose, I actually switched to an NAA pug. . That said, I have never tried to pocket-carry one so Im not voting on it in terms of that specific criteria. You can read about well known problems on reddit, Amazon, etc, for ranknings and customer ratings abuse. WebThe .380 Auto (ACP) Pistol is most often used for self-defense, and is a particularly good choice for concealed carry thanks to its small size. I found that many mags for the Hellcat where not cut properly with too much play at the catch. AND, NAA has first class warranty service. I would bet my life on this smallish, nice looking pistol. Forget about dropping the mag with the shooting hand, cause it aint happening. Non shooters called me a liar that we could do it, but any bad guy within 30 yards is in great danger, even though it has been a long time. I carry it about as often as I carry a Glock 19 mainly based upon clothing/belt shortcomings in dress scenarios. To quote his expertise is laughable. How is it possibly at the top of the list? I certainly wouldnt be happy. Cant say LCP is much better than any of these above, but it has been reliable. On the plus side, the SCCY has a lighter trigger than the Kel-Tec P11 (which may explain the problem), but the P11 always goes bang. The CW380 sucks. You can hire chinese brokers to buy likes on Fakebook, and twitter followers by the thousands. To start with they sat on it for 2 whole years teasing a release and it just kept getting pushed back further and further. NOPE! I shoot pocket guns all the time. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. Im a Glock 27 guy, so I dont mind recoil. Funny, I have the SCCY CPX-2 and I love it. Go to some of the forums and you will seem many post and pictures from fans. I also Have the Kahr CW380 nice guy but finicky on ammo. 3) SCCY Industries CPX-2(4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes). The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. Im thinking about getting a second one to keep in my truck or with my bow hunting gear. The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. Ive put plenty of rounds through my p3at and its reliable. Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . And I will do my best to talk others out of Kahr products. Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. Maybe something like this? Oh not to mention Sccy has great Do you really know anything about pocket guns? The trigger pull on the LCP II most closely resembles the trigger on larger striker fired polymer pistols such as the Glock. Ill take more objective reviews from knowledgeable shooters. If there is what looks like an empty hole its uncocked. The Hellcat II was cheap when purchased new, and you can find one used for around $100. yes the Masss might love them, but who the hell are the masses? They were remarkably accurate and soft-shooting, too. It is light and works. Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. Those were the worst. The DB380 is a cheap subcompact 380 pocket pistol. I had huge issues with a Kahr, so they will never get my money again. Most people who love the P3-AT just carry it but dont use it. In fact, reading them, even with comments, is quite nearly a waste of time. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. My Cpx 2 is not 100% reliable, but I did not expect it to be for $250. We saw your review and write up. Theres room for disagreement, but probably only because some peoples pockets are bigger and can hold bigger guns. No problem with the SCCY at all. Glock 42 4. Think he went through that with customer service Ill give ya the mag though. I put the new glock style slide release on mine and it is a little slimmer now. I own expensive pistols and revolvers, as well as a SCCY CPX-2. I carry in the front pocket and have trouble with the stupid buttons that accidentally release the mag. We both agreed, the TCP trigger was superior to the LCP. A bunch. You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. He talks about having to yank the Mag. My Kahr is a nice but, but Finicky as heck. My son made sure I carried a SW9VE for daily use. Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. And BTW, the gunsgunsguns link doesnt work. And just recently bought my Third Pico. Super long heavy pull, which is understandable on a DA only no safety gun. However it is not any where near the build quality of the Beretta Pico. A local guy shot a home invader with a SCCY. Actually bought a second one. Empties wouldnt just fail to clear the slide; theyd never leave the chamber. But for a handgun of last resort, I prefer an Airweight. People cant make crap up in their comments? They still fall back to the limp wrist and ammo excuses. Take the guns in this article, for example: did people downvote them because they were too uncomfortable to fire? Lol, a very nice DAO, the new Gen is much lighter. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. But unlike those highly rated guns, the Hellcat IIs rating is in the toilet. I dont see it. Its teeny, accurate, and easy to handle. +1 Mag Extensions are the only change to it. In regards to the Cobra a lot of people dissing the gun are those who fire hollowpoints through it. Ruger LCP II .380 ($349) LMFAO!!!! Just like Fords. WebMAC Website & PrimaryArms website link: http://www.militaryarms.orgJoin Patreon and support MAC! The tiny gun is lightweight, inexpensive and comfortable to carry. Ive been fortunate enough to be able to shoot a big variety of different .380s. The best one, so far, that I have shot with the least amount of re Lol, I think he is a troll with other guns as well. The trigger is fantastic, and reassuring in handling and holstering (leather IWB) in ways that Glock is not. The double 1911 also has ratings. More power to him I say. BTW except for the cobra all these little guns got good reviews at various timesFWIW. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the i cant effectively describe the feel of the action; except to say it was similar to dragging a cinder block up a gravel hill. But that is just learning curve and a trade off when they removed the problematic safety from the earlier models. the problem with your rating site is that it is seriously flawed. My NAA .380 ACP with Novak 3 dot night sights has been 100% reliable with every ammo tried and as accurate as I am. Seriously, it works if you have a fresh pair of springs in it. One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. When I told him I never have a problem with my P-11 or my wifes Ruger SR-9, he then said maybe its the ammo. Stainless steel through out the gun. I would buy one if I needed another inexpensive backup carry gun. Only time I tried one I did not like it. I was glad not to see Kel Tac on the bottom list. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. You get two shots, a single-action-only Three weeks before it was even released. customer service should you need it that transfers with the gun. My other gun is a Beretta PX4. Im about to order some more. While larger .380 pistols such as the Walther PPK/S, Walther PK380, Bersa Thunder 380, and Glock 42 dont have this problem, the truly small pocket pistols such as the LCP and TCP most certainly do. I had a CPX-2, functionality and reliability i couldnt complain about. The Pico is a great gun. They fall apart with any kink of volume down range. If you actually carry a gun in your pocket, even in a pocket holster, its gonna get dirty. It makes my SR40C feel like a 9mm. He paid people to review his book on Amazon. Hence why Hipoints explode when high pressure rounds are put in them or dont feed reliably when hollowpoints are used. I think you would be hard pressed to find any thing this good for that price. Extremely Mild, Plus P rated, Modular design, mags that look like Custom 1911 stainless steel. How is this journalisim? Its elegant lines and precision engineering have a timeless appeal. And then the gall to refer to Jeremy who by the way did not bother to report that the upgraded model fixed all the issues with the first run. Everything they make are just wrought with problems. I just hated the trigger. Oh, it fits my hand great too. Its manageable. 5 Best 380 Pistols for Concealed Carry in 2022 - Gun News Safe, small, and gives me some measure of security I wouldnt have without it. So the recoil is stout. And surely have not shot one or very little. So they added in where if you downvote something you must list at least one reason why. This is NOT a target gun. You can buy 1911s now. I have several pocket pistols, Just had my XDS 45 fail on me (Light primer strikes) and have another XDS in 9MM, I have a S&W Sigma 380, that works but is less pleasing than my two Ruger LCPs, Kahr, CW380, or my Colt Mustang XSP. Im guessing a .40 S&W round is just too unpleasant to shoot in this uber lightweight polymer-framed pocket gun. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. Do you perhaps have a very early one? When he says the People have spoken who the heck is that? Sure you can spend $500 on a Glock or what ever else you want to list but the specs on this gun make it a easy choice and hell I can buy two for the price of most good guns. I agree, the P3AT is my go to light carry gun. Those small NAA revolvers you have to learn how to safely load and unload. check the ammo?? I am no statistician but most of the sample sizes were very small. Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. 6) IO Hellcat II (2.9 stars 0.6, 32 votes). Trash. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. What good is a lifetime warranty if they dont fix it??? Quick Summary: Our Top Picks For 5 Best .380 Pistols in 2022 1. They are meant to be defensive arms that can be easily carried in the pocket. The number of ratings is what sold his other books. I own a SCCY CPX-2 personally and it has been a flawless gun. Ive never seen one that ran well or was anything but unpleasant to shoot, provided you can get more than one round off without a misfeed. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. The trigger seem to be the trouble people have with it. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. I still have the same problem. (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). Its that bad. I love this gun for the price, and just because its not made by Glock means nothing to me. Did they succeed? Generally the heavier it is the less recoil. But people usually get .380 to conceal them. If you just care about recoil the Berretta cheeta is a go Ruger LCR in 38 spcl +P. Literally, it is.) I love this site and usually stand behind the things written on it, but this is absolute trash and clickbait. How many times do you change magazines in a self defense situation? Maybe if there was an () in theremaybe that might work like Tpanga or Gnai or some such name. The guns with the lower number of people voting are probably irrelevant no matter what their scores are. Go to the Beretta form Pico and the gun is loved by many. Obviously you really do not get into pocket guns or spend time with folks that do. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! Thats when I could get them to respond to my emails, that is. I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. Hi points work if you use FMJ and clean and oil the gun. It is about 99% reliable, however, which is good enough to carry. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. Thats a lot! Its pretty clear why. I was also surprised to find the CM40 rated so poorly. Voted by handgun magazine as a top pistol and great manufacturer. Each of these guns has a lightweight, compact design making them ideal for concealed carry. But again, the people have spoken: the Pico sucks. More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. In light of that, the valuable service you claim hes doing may well be smoke and mirrors. SCCY Industries CPX-2 (4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes) This gun is budget-friendly Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. The list is pretty laughable, though, because drawing conclusions from such a tiny sample of unvetted ratings is deeply, deeply flawed. Or the Kahr in there? Plus, the Picos 9mm cousin, the Nano, rates well above average. The Pico is built like a tank. And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. Nemesis pocket holster, and 1 spare mag, goes everyehere. Why Beretta didnt copy the ergonomics on that is a mystery to me. The CM9 is a great gun. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. Its a joy to shoot. Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. It shot pretty well overall, but the trigger sucked. And that considering the Kahr is a fine gun. It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. I have 2 of them. BUT! Wouldnt take much time for an employee or contractor of one of these manufacturers to buff up the ratings, or down rate a competitor. OMG! Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. Mild. I own a hp380. Could not disagree more with the articles 3rd selection, namely, the SCCY Industries CPX-2 (not to be confused with its predecessor which had issues of which were acknowledged by the company and subsequently corrected). But the reset on the trigger was so ridiculously long Id often miss follow up shots because I handt let it out far enough to reset. Otherwise, their opinion may mean nothing. WebSome derringers, like the Bond Arms derringers, are brilliantly crafted guns. Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. Thanks for your post. Have you ever even shot one? I bought a used SCCY CPX-2. As in best gun LOL. I just cant see myself ever paying for a gun called SuCCY! Fan boys gotta fan boy, and critics gotta criticize. Bottom line, a lifetime warranty isnt worth squat if they cant fix the problem and their only answer is to blame the customer. Man this Truth about guns article really burns me up. You have entered an incorrect email address! Also cobra has a lifetime warranty on their guns if you do the warranty. WebSmith & Wesson Model 500 is a five-shot, single action/double-action large caliber revolver produced by Smith & Wesson, firing the .500 S&W Magnum cartridge, a .50 caliber bullet. I love my CPX-1. Remarkable build quality. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. Have owned and shot most of them. 2) Cobra Firearms CA380 (4.3 stars 0.9, 36 votes). I have shot the Pico with thousands of rounds and can honestly say I have Never had ONE single failure out of thousands of rounds. Unfortunately, each of these pistols and others in their class suffer from a number of serious flaws. A 9mm shouldnt be slower than a .45. 8===D~. Funny. As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. The Sccy gets a 4.3 rating and it stinks? At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. Keltec P-11 listed as 10+1 on THEIR website. He didnt even require them to be positive. Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? (dead serious) took it right back to the store. Ultra smooth shooters. My PT 22 is surprisingly reliable. Seriously?). I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. I have two of the Picos. I would think a pocket gun would be best kept in .380 or 9mm. The trigger is exactly like a double action revolver. There are many different 380 pistol options, but our favorites include the following: Ruger LCP II, Walther PK380, Kel-tec P3AT, Taurus Spectrum, and M&P Shield EZ. Get a Kahr CW380 or P380 and just be done with it cause they really dont get much better for pocket 380 carry IMO. Kahr CW 380. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. Lets find out by comparing it to the original LCP. I live in Utah, so in the wintertime its a very high probability that Ill be wearing some type of glove. The Ring of Fire guns are small, super If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. Thats what made my wife choose a Sig P238, which I carry occasionally. After each guns name, youll see its average user rating, that ratings margin of error and the number of votes: 1) Diamondback Firearms DB380 (4.3 stars 1.0, 25 votes). However, it is pricey and a bit bulkier than some of the others. 400 rounds! Are you kidding me? Probably ran 150 round through it so far. A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. For instance, I have owned 4 lcps and the pico will run circles around them. These arent Rambo guns, they are self defense guns. (I like Glocks, but between the trigger and the slimness of the Kahr, Im a convert) My least favorite aspect of the CM40, aside from the revolver-like capacity, is the stiffness of the slide spring. Only drawback is the 2D trigger. I chose. I challange anyone to break down the Pico and compare all parts to any of the Aluminum Chassis Pocket guns. And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. Certainly one of the ugliest pistols ever manufactured, this weapon made the list of worst military pistols because its dangerous design easily surpassed its repellant appearance. I dont know the story behind why but we can only guess. And we have to like it enough to carry it. Accurate for cheap junk. All of these features together, the improved trigger, the enhanced serrations, the stippling on the grip, and the slightly wider grip size all combine to make the LCP II a better handgun to shoot than the original LCP. I told him Im shooting the same Remington ammo in all of them (I dont use the reloads or Russian stuff). The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was first introduced in 2008. Beretta has been making guns for over 500 years and nice guns. No problems what so ever. Its almost like clockwork, at about the 5th round itll turn the shell sideways then the returning bolt will grab it. But I have no interest in any Keltec pistol-unlike several rifles. CPX 2. You do that and you will find hipoints and cobras to work as they are intended. Hellcat 380. When you insert a fresh magazine, it will be easier to rack the slide this way as well. Worst Guns Ever Nambu: The Nambu is one of the worst pistols ever designed. The take down lever is actually easy to use once get use to it. It is not made for quick magazine changes. HICKCOCK45 SAID OF THE PICO I really like this trigger. The warranty cant be beat. Though my CW380 was also unreliable and pinched my finger after firing. Totally agree. In this review, we will cover the disadvantages of the .380 pistol that the LCP II sought to remedy, what makes the LCP II an improvement over the original LCP, and the uses for and specifications of the LCP II. Even a novice can see the better build quality of the Pico. The CM40 being smaller and lighter might exhibit a little more, but its not unmanageable. And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. One now has over 4,000 rounds of flawless ammo down range the other now over 1500 and have never broken a firing pin. But, in real life event, the trigger want matter. Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. They are all solid, dependable, and reliable. Her gun was unloaded while the thugs were not. Horrible, awful trigger. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. Types Of .380 Pistols Subcompact vs Micro-Compact Single-Stack vs Double-Stack Magazines What Should You Look for in a Do not yank the magazine friends. Web.380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) was one of the many calibers created by legendary firearms designer John Browning, dating back to 1908. No gun, none, should have a mag release that is that stiff and impossible to use fast and effectively, especially in a carry gun none the less. the fact you just dont like it? 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