Mr. GOLDSMITH - Would those summaries be destroyed as a matter of routine, to your knowledge? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Well, if I understand your correctly, then, you answer now was somewhat different from what you testified earlier. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many months after the assassination was this? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Regardless, it ended up in my files around the time we opened the JFK Center in 1989. Mr. PREYER - That was shop talk, speculation, I gather; people were saying that the CIA is somehow connected with it. (The witness conferred with his Counsel.). Walther was sure they were not as high as the sixth floor. He was not questioned by the Warren Commission. New security officers appeared. He kept his pocket calendars from his years of employment, and he noted when the grocery company moved out of the building to a new facility in another part of Dallas. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people have you spoken to that said that Oswald was an agent of the CIA, to the best of your recollection? During this same time, I also met and spoke with relevant employees who later worked for Lee Harvey Oswalds supervisor after the assassination of President Kennedy. Mr. GOLDSMITH - But as a matter of routine, would the CIA cash disbursement files refer to the cryptonym of either the person or the project that is receiving funds? Mr. WILCOTT - My. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And finally, as I said at the beginning is it fair to say that you are here voluntarily today? Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, I did not. It was not until 1999 that I spoke to someone who could solve this apparent discrepancy. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How did this information concerning Oswald first come to your attention? Mrs. Bergin paid a great deal of money for that dress. Mr. CORNWELL - Your best memory is, you wrote it on a note paid, is. Mr. WILCOTT - I believe that Oswald was a double agent, was sent over to the Soviet Union to do intelligence work, that the defection was phoney and it was set up and that I believe that Marina Oswald was an agent that had been recruited sometime before and was waiting their in Tokyo for Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. GOLDSMITH - You have indicated that you were not inclined to go to the Warren Commission because you were concerned about their security? As described to me by Joe Bergin, Jr., son of the regional manager of Scott Foresman, working conditions changed dramatically after the assassination. Mr. CORNWELL - Did they tell you whether or not you passed the polygraphs? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1978 Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. PREYER - I would like before we begin to read a written statement concerning the subject of the investigation. After leaving high school he might have continued as an intelligence operative working undercover in local defense plants (plural) during the last months of the war. Redemption links and eBooks cannot be resold. Glazes meetings with Shelley were therefore not at the Ambassador Row facility, as I originally believed, but rather they occurred at the building on Gemini Lane. Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. One label read Texas School Book Depository, 500 Red Pony books by John Steinbeck, from Bobbs-Merrill. She planned to wear it that Friday evening at a social gathering. I remember hearing about some CIA people who had somehow helped the right-wing Minute Men in Texas to get arms, originally intended for the invasion. Among the Dallas individuals and companies engaged in supplying arms to Cuban exiles and the Minute Men might have been the ones occupying the building at 411 Elm Street. How much exact knowledge they had it is impossible for me to say. There is a vast literature on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, . that I had at my gate, and I did that with cryptonyms from time to time for something -- we would want to check back into their accounting for something. Mr. CORNWELL - The cryptonym -- did you write it down at any point? Mr. DODD - And it is your clear recollection that he was described as an agent? Adams said, I believe the President has been shot. Neither Shelley nor Lovelady said anything in reply. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, when the officer told you -- strike that. House of Representatives, * Assassination Archives and Research Center leads the fight in federal court for full JFK disclosure. Mr. WILCOTT - All in the finance -- in accounting all of the time. * JFK Facts editorJefferson Morley will personally answer your JFK questions. House of Representatives, John F. Kennedy Subcommittee of the Select Committee on Assassinations, Washington, D. C. Two men, who identified themselves (with I.D.) Mr. GOLDSMITH - And who is Jerry Fox? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes sir. Mr. WILCOTT - No. * 2017 JFK has a detailed guide to the massive JFK disclosures scheduled for October 2017. Mr. WILCOTT - That was late '68 or perhaps early 1969. In the new 2017 November release of JFK documents, he was interviewed in executive session under oath by the House Select Committee On Assassinations on March 22,1978. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I am sorry -- if Oswald was what? Which seems to be an odd premise, especially since, as Jerry Rose pointed out in his article, Important to Hold that Man there were at least 14 people missing from the building at the time; and they would not return until 1:30 PM. Strange Deaths Of People Who Knew Too Much About The JFK Assassination: 92 Witnesses, Researchers, CIA Agents, Police Officers, Reporters, Girlfriends Who Just Knew Way Too Much! I was really scared to go to the Government and talk about any of these things. Mr. WILCOTT - I flipped through it. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Who was George Breen? Mr. WILCOTT - Oh, yes. Spaulding Jones, former branch manager of MacMillan, said they moved in around 1957 or 1958. Mr. GOLDSMITH - When did that occur? On many occasions he had conversations with CIA personnel concerning Lee Harvey Oswald's employment as a CIA agent. New York, 1989) p. 319. Wilcott worked in the accounting department and was in charge of disbursement of cash funds. As mentioned, I was forced to flee Dallas until another day. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, he mentioned the cryptonym specifically under which the money was drawn. This would include things like: (1) determining lines of fire from upper story windows, (2) planning the access and escape routes for the sniper team, (3) positioning and controlling the designated patsy as a workman inside the building, (4) fabricating evidence such as rifle, cartridges, and paper bag to implicate the patsy, (5) selecting the so-called snipers nest where the ersatz evidence would be planted. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true, sir. Mr. CORNWELL - Why did you leave the CIA? Then in 2009 I read and reviewed James Douglass's masterpiece, JFK and the Unspeakable, and my traumatic memories of 1963 and after came flooding back in full force. SILENCED! Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - Particularly George Breen and XXXXXXXXX to a lesser extent. During a follow up call, he told me that the two musicians were not in contact with former members of the band and knew nothing of their whereabouts nor of their current activities. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. Why would anyone share the information that Oswald was an agent with you, Mr. Wilcott? Mr. WILCOTT - No; I think that I looked through my advance book -- and I had a book where the advances on projects were run, and I leafed through them, and I must have at least leafed through them to see if what he said was true. One of the aforementioned employees (whose name I cannot recall) stated that when she went to work for Bill Shelly at the school book depository in the early 1970s she was interviewed for the job by some type of government agents who asked if she had been recruited by the F.B.I. Mr. WILCOTT - I really don't know. Ruffians driving by yelled derogatory things and threw objects at the house such as half-empty beer cans. Standing next to him was a man wearing a brown suitcoat. Mr. CORNWELL - How many of them were newspaper or magazine reporters or involved in at least the news business ? Governor John Connally and his wife, Nellie, sat in front of them. It was dated December 12, 1977,[11] and, at the bottom, it had the authors full name. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I am. Support JFK Facts Here's how you can help: Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, they did not. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, is your testimony then that even though. In 1984, they began sending tapes of their programs to public access channels in Dallas and San Antonio and then to other cities around the country, hence the name of the umbrella organization, the Alternative Information Network. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And you have had access to the cash disbursement files at XXXXXXXXXXXXX Station? I discussed it with my friends and the people that I was associating with socially. There is a very large spider guarding this web of secrecy. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, does that mean you were able to check back only thirty days from the time that you were given this information? (2009), James W. Douglass explains this in detail, including the James Wilcott story. Mr. WILCOTT - No, I don't. From January of 1965 to about March of 1965, I was at Langley in the same area, in finance, policing accounts and auditing of special accounts, and I was promoted up to GS-9. Oversized boxes were also seen by Joe Bergin, Jr. when he visited his father at the 411 Elm Street building. ). "[24] Lovelady must have been one of the other calm men, since, as previously noted, he made no response when Adams said that the president had been shot. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have an opinion as to how the She & her husband left Dallas shortly afterward. Mr. WILCOTT - It was stated as a fact -- Oswald or the Oswald project. Mr. SAWYER - Was he in Utica? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. He was in the military service over there, and so you feel be was a double agent who was trained while he was in the military by the CIA, and you mentioned he was given a Russian course. [6] They held a big meeting during which they warned everyone not to discuss the assassination with outsiders. Obviously, if Shelly had been arrested, someone with the police had that record expunged. Dr. King was killed by one rifle shot fired from in front of him. [26], Pierce Allman, a local newsman, later said that after he approached the TSBD, a man he recalled as Oswald near the front of the building, directed him to a phone inside.[27]. Mr. WILCOTT - None initially. He followed environmental concerns and space exploration, and he enjoyed playing and watching sports. In the decade following his HSCA testimony, Jim Wilcott joined Vietnam veteran Brian Willson and the Nuremberg Actions community outside the Concord Naval Weapons Station in nonviolent resistance to weapons shipments to the CIA-sponsored Contra war in Nicaragua. At the end of the hallway to his right was another door. Mr. WILCOTT - Anything they had there would have -- sometimes they used as many as two or three different cryptonyms and they would have -- it all depended on how far they wanted to isolate it from the original source, from the original source as to where the project was run. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't know how to answer that. Butler said that the 411 Elm Street building was vacant for at least a year after his company moved out. Below is an excerpt from Harriss letter dated December 15, 1992: Enclosed is the Bill Shelley document I read to you over the phone. He was the mayor at that time. Did you recognize any part of it, the first two letters or the last portions of it, as referring to any geographic area or any type of activity or anything like that? JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report. Mr. WILCOTT - I do. I . Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you remember the name of this Case Officer? Jerry Fox, SR Branch, Soviet Russia Branch -- Mr. WILCOTT - I believe our full strength was around XXXXXXX and we never actually had that many, I don't think. Mr. PREYER - He stated that as a fact and not that he believed it was drawn out for Oswald or it could have been or something like that? (sic) files -- my internal files, prior to the end of the month. Please publish modules in offcanvas position. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is that explanation? According to this person, shortly after going to work for Bill Schelly, she & another new employee were subjected to some rather odd questioning when considering they were hired as clerks. The Three Barons proves that it is possible (with enough research), to reconstruct the organizational chart of the JFK plot. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - No. Mr. WILCOTT - I resigned. This is the story of the Wilcott file. Charles Givens, like Oswald, had left the building after the assassination. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Well, in other words, if you got the information three months after the assassination, Oswald had already been dead for three months, is that right? We think our readers would be interested in reading his evidence./p>, (Click here to open the document in another page.). Apart from the one officer who said to you that you had paid monies with respect to Oswald's cryptonym, what were the other six or seven persons' purported connection with Oswald and the Agency's relation to him. Mr. WILCOTT - I have no idea, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. The first contact I had with any reporter or any newspaper people or any media people was with Glad Day Press. Mr. WILCOTT - That he was a regular employee, receiving a full-time salary for agent work for doing CIA operational work. Mr. DODD - When you were told all of this? Mr. CORNWELL - In the conversations you had with other CIA employees, the six or seven persons who purported to have good information about the use of Oswald as an agent, did any of those people say anything to you which suggested that the CIA had some role in the assassination of President Kennedy? Those generations who were there in 1963 are grateful that people like you are continuing the pursuit and taking another look at events which may have been too shocking for the rest of us to ever fully comprehend. James T. Tague was an unintended victim in the Kennedy assassination, hit by a stray bullet while stuck in traffic on the way to pick up a luncheon date. Mr. WILCOTT - On two other occasions, I was on KPOO Radio in San Francisco and I discussed in detail, in quite a bit of detail, the speculations and also the incident of the case officer contacting me at the window. Mary Lea Williams, a receptionist for Allyn & Bacon, said the move occurred two or three years before the assassination. He said there were two musicians who had been with the band since the beginning and he would speak to them. He was fortunate to have many travels, including celebration of his 60th birthday in Antarctica. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. PREYER - It had no relation to your performance? Mr. CORNWELL - At several points in your testimony you have stated there were six or seven persons, and on each occasion you raised the extent of their knowledge as "knew" or "believed." The was that we did this was to contact as many people all at once and we figured this would be our best protection, that the more people that knew about it, the more protection it would, be for us. Also in this investigative report is information and connections on prime suspects : CIA Agent William King Harvey, CIA Agent George Joannides , CIA Agent David Altee Phillips and the confessions of CIA agent David Sanchez Morals and E Howard Hunt. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is that opinion? But their manner was very relaxed. In my letter to him, I praised him for his courage and expressed the hope that someday he might fill in the gaps of his story for the sake of history. 3 By James Mathis and Martha Wagner Murphy Enlarge A photograph from Warren Commission exhibits shows the open limousine that carried President and Mrs. Kennedy through downtown Dallas. Mr. SCHAAP - For the record, I have made a list of all of these spellings of the names which have been mentioned, which I will give to the stenographer so that he will have, them correctly. I made my call and left. Mr. SAWYER - When you refer to Oswald as an agent, you are referring to the extent you have -- as an agent as opposed to a paid informer, in effect? We publish here the Wilcott affidavit and interrogation by the HSCA, declassified by the Assassination Records Review Board. These ebooks can only be redeemed by recipients in the US. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. Shelleys second claim was that he joined the CIA. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I was on day duty for the station. DL 100-10461. It was a total loss. Mr. WILCOTT - The basis for that is discussions that I had with people at the XXXXX Station. When Doug Kellner answered the phone, I described to him the contents of the letter. Mr. DODD - Am I to presume that you told your wife of the conversation you had with this case officer at the time it occurred? Mr. DODD - After the assassination actually occurred? Free shipping for many products! (Whereupon, at 12:55 p.m. the subcommittee recessed. Learn more. Mr. SCHAAP - Mr. Chairman, I would like to interpose, I guess, an objection, although I would like to make it more in the nature of a request, that I have some problems in terms of advising my client with respect to possibly self incrimination, that I would not advise him to go into questions of his specific knowledge of the oath and the application to what he did other than the fact that he has told you, which is a fact, that he did sign the oath; but to, go into his mental processes as to whether he felt what he was then doing related to the oath in a particular way, I would request that those questions not be asked on the grounds that they may violate either his First Amendment rights or his Fifth Amendment rights, if that would be all right. [5] Interviews of Ted Leon and Thomas H. Butler. Mr. DODD - When did you leave to go back? And perhaps even having people inside the TSBD as assets. Mr. DODD - And she was aware of it from 1964 up until 1968 -- Mr. GOLDSMITH - Is that list complete and does it have. [22] Sylvia Meagher, Accessories After the Fact, p. 74. Considering the noise of gun blasts and the uproar going on outside, it is odd that Oswald continued to be unconcerned. I apologize. Below is Mr. Glazes letter: House of Re. this allegation? Mr. WILCOTT - Well, with the Agency, yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Please excuse this messy letter. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And did you check any other records? Shelleys claim that he was an intelligence officer would make sense if, as an ROTC lieutenant, he received intelligence training and perhaps even given some assignments in counterespionage. responsibilities were primarily record keeping and disbursing of funds. Mr. Shelly claims to have been an intelligence officer during World War II and thereafter joined the CIA. Garner went on to say that at the same time, around 1969, William Shelley quit the book depository and began working for Scott Foresman. Mr. WILCOTT - No, I am not saying that. However, please contact me before mentioning my name to anyone. Copyright 2016-2022 by kennedysandking.com All Rights Reserved. Mr. CORNWELL - It was not normally part of your duties or the scope of the knowledge that you routinely acquired on your job, as I understand it, for you to know what the cryptonyms meant; is that correct? Mr. WILCOTT - I have been trying to talk about this thing and other things for the last ten years. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was Jerry Fox one of the people that made. He learned this after the fact through various sources within the Agency, who all recognized what had happened after the assassination and the association of Oswalds name with the crime. Can you recall whether the tone of it was rumor or shop talk or was the tone of it that "this is true"? There was a lot of excitement going on at the station after the Kennedy assassination. (Whereupon, a recess was taken while the members of I the Committee went to the floor of the House for a vote.) Mr. DODD - In 1957? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Were any of these people on your list possible subjects who made references to Oswald being a CIA agent? Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. Since then, he has written numerous articles on the subject for various periodicals, including The Fourth Decade, Dealey Plaza Echo, and Probe. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, did I ask you to prepare a list indicating the dates that you were employed with the CIA and where you were stationed? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. DODD - Did anyone else at the Agency know of your views at the Agency and did you communicate with other people about your dissatisfaction? (National Archives, RG 272) No other event of the last 75 . But in the light of the information in this essay, it seems interesting that it was Shelly and Truly who took the name of Oswald to the police. Mr. PREYER - The committee will resume. Elzie Dean Glaze passed away on November 15, 2019. In this area were numerous cardboard boxes, four feet square by five feet high. His desire to tell what he knew overcame his fear at least twice in his life. [12], A suggestion of smuggling activities within the TSBD comes in the form of boxes too large to be practical containers of books. This would put his visit in a period sometime during the summer or fall of 1963. Had the seemingly insignificant trail of bread crumbs I stumbled across had not been so he avidly guarded, I might never have given it a second thought. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why has it been difficult? Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir; he was described to me as an, agent and I was led to believe, from the conversations that he was an agent. There are photos of him getting into a police car along with Bonnie Ray Williams and Daniel Arce. Mr. WILCOTT - So it was sometime between February and June of 1964? Since a cubic foot of books is about 25 to 30 pounds, a box such as this, when loaded with books, would have weighed around 375 to 450 poundstoo heavy to manage with a handcart. "I was standing on the triple underpass at the time and was wounded by a fragment that bounced off the pavement," Tague, now 77, told ABC News. [12] Wilcotts 3/22/78 HSCA deposition, pp. or C.I.A. But you apparently indicated that you feel there was a direct connection between the Bay of Pigs operation and the assassination of the President. James Wilcott worked out of the Tokyo CIA station at the time of the assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. At my request, he sent me a copy. Mr. WILCOTT - Very briefly it did, yes, in what was finally published. It also analyzed reviews to verify trustworthiness. According to an FBI report dated November 22, 1963, warehouse manager Roy Truly said, The Texas School Book Depository has occupied the building at 411 Elm Street for only a few months. James B. Wilcott was a CIA accountant who disbursed CIA station funds in Tokyo, Japan. Roy Truly, who started working for the book depository in 1934, took a part-time job at the North American Aviation plant in Arlington, Texas during the war years. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I did. Obviously, my handwriting has long been broken down. Occupation of the building during the summer of 1963 could be a first step in a planning stage. And during that period, I had been promoted, GS-7 and also gained a career status. Mr. WILCOTT - This was SNIC, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee before they became a black power group Mr. CORNWELL - Did you -- at the time you made the decision to discuss outside of the Agency this matter, did you focus on the secrecy oath problem? [11] Glaze misdated his letter as 12/12/74.. I have entered other webs, but this one is different because the spider leaves the web and stalks its preysometimes for many years. I went immediately into the clear space on the ground floor and asked where there was a phone. Also at this location were the office suites of eight schoolbook publishing companies, including Scott Foresman, Southwestern, Macmillan, and McGraw-Hill. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report at Amazon.com. Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. We had accountings, or we had audits about every two years, and then then files that I kept the requests for advances, the details of the accountings that were done usually on a monthly basis by the XXXXX Station Branches, would be destroyed and then they would be -- and, in fact, I helped destroy them. Their apartment looked as if no one had ever lived in it. I am afraid we are going to have to leave to make this vote right now. I believe it was more in a speculative realm. He was sickly looking, and, like his father, had lost weight. Did you contact any CIA officer or employee with respect to the secrecy oath and discuss with them whether or not you should be permitted to discuss these matters outside of the Agency? Mr. CORNWELL - When was that? With that, I pass along my rather tiny candle, plus my best wishes and encouragement. I was up to my neck before I realized it. However, information on the Prayer-man.com website shows that Shelley was indeed an officer during the war, albeit as a lieutenant in the Reserve Officer Training Corps at Crozier Tech. Mr. WILCOTT - From the time I left I talked at various times, especially at parties and things like that, on social occasions, with people at headquarters and with people at my station, and we would converse about it and I used to say things like, "What do you think about Oswald being connected with the CIA? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Drawing your attention to the period immediately after the assassination of President Kennedy, at that time, did you come across any information concerning Lee Harvey Oswald's relationship with the CIA? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I did. [8] Carolyn Arnold, a secretary for Vice-president Ochus Campbell, told a friend in 1994 that she had been, and still was, terrified. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was he a CIA employee? 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